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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 12:31am    Post subject:
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Sorry, didn't read Moff and Cray's posts.

Anyway, so what happens to the Christmas bonus? I assume that gets wiped as well?
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 12:37am    Post subject:
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Kol Starskimmer wrote:
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Will each faction keep the designs that it already has?

Everyone will be keeping all the designs that they want to keep, that's why they're saying people can volunteer to surrender designs if they wish.
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 12:57am    Post subject:
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Will design templates stay the same, or will they be restructured as well?
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 02:03am    Post subject:
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Will each faction keep the designs that it already has?

Well... yes. But to be honest, I'd like to encourage a shift toward canon craft. We're hard at work finding a lot of stuff that, while it won't one-shot an ISD, can fill out a navy nicely.

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Anyway, so what happens to the Christmas bonus? I assume that gets wiped as well?

Yes and no. As it is NOW, yes. Every single credit in this game is being wiped. THEN they will be replaced by NEW credits, which will carry significantly more weight per unit than the current system.

Think of it like this. You have 100 billion credits, and an Executor costs 50 billion. Well, afterward, you'll have 100,000 credits, and an Executor will cost 50,000. (Those aren't the hard numbers, so please don't panic :p).

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Everyone will be keeping all the designs that they want to keep, that's why they're saying people can volunteer to surrender designs if they wish.

Yes, you can... but, at the risk of sounding like an ass, I'd really like all of the more extreme and especially the knockoff designs to be surrendered. The TIE Defender isn't going to be seeing widespread use, so I should not be seeing formations of hundreds of squadrons of TIE Defender ripoffs, be they inferior, superior, or identical in capability. Same goes for ISD, Akula, and command ship ripoffs. Enough is enough.

I'm not going to force you, but I'll admit I have some strong feelings on the matter... and I do not want to have to totally rebuild the Imperial Navy again because people have to have their ISD killers and Avenger knockoffs and Defender copies.

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Will design templates stay the same, or will they be restructured as well?

Probably the same for the most part, but I will be tweaking them.

EDIT: Oh, yeah. All of the above goes for knockoffs of non-Imperial tech, too. :p
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 02:19am    Post subject:
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Tiara Tranada wrote:
Kol Starskimmer wrote:
*clutches heart and collapses*

Will each faction keep the designs that it already has?

Everyone will be keeping all the designs that they want to keep, that's why they're saying people can volunteer to surrender designs if they wish.


Another thing to keep in mind is the cost of the design units. Some may go up drastically to the point of factions no longer being able to afford them while others may even go down in price. It all depends on what you have on your plate. That's why we ask that everyone review what designs you have and if they're reasonable in terms of the game play. If what you have seems outlandish and doesn't really make sense or was simply designed to '1 up' an earlier model, then it may be something to consider cutting.
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 05:50am    Post subject:
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Now, to do that, we have to do something even more drastic. All faction assets will be wiped to a clean slate.

If you haven't had a heart attack yet, keep reading.

Yes, I just said wiping all faction assets. Ships, troops, money, everything


...

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I spent SO LONG organising my army and navy.

SO. LONG.

Then again, it would be nice to reorganise it from scratch so it was actually divisible, because it was a huge mess.

Otherwise, I feel some discomfort but I trust CMAC to make the right decision. I'm sorry I made superships and so on, but we did have a sort of arms race going on and I didn't want to miss out on that :P I did try to keep things reasonable, at least in the fighter department (Rory helped kick my ass into submission over that)

Sorry for not posting before, I was tired from New Years. And sorry for my inactivity, I'll fix that :) I promise.
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 11:44am    Post subject:
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Alright, so this is just cleaning the plates in order to keep the upcoming war nice and neat, instead of dropping a pair of 1,000-ship fleets on CMAC's lap and saying "Calculate, please." Makes sense. :)

And as for designs (Specifically the ones based off of Imperial tech), we'd have to wait until the changes were made before remaking them. IE, if your ship is designed to take on Imperators, but the Imperators are dummed down a bit, then your ship is now more powerful than a Star Destroyer, and the cost to build it goes up, etc. Because of this, I have a feeling that there will be many design resubmissions after the changes are made.
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 12:12pm    Post subject:
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there will be many design resubmissions after the changes are made.


Rahahahahahaha.
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 12:30pm    Post subject:
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That is a possibility... but, we'd also like to see more pre-existing designs being used, if they're available to you. We want to try to discourage blatant 1upping unless the example makes sense.
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 01:12pm    Post subject:
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I spent SO LONG organising my army and navy.

SO. LONG.

Yeah, me too. And your stuff was the hardest to integrate. :p

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And as for designs (Specifically the ones based off of Imperial tech), we'd have to wait until the changes were made before remaking them. IE, if your ship is designed to take on Imperators, but the Imperators are dummed down a bit, then your ship is now more powerful than a Star Destroyer, and the cost to build it goes up, etc. Because of this, I have a feeling that there will be many design resubmissions after the changes are made.

Actually, we're hoping people will respec their designs. And like I said, I'd like it if the more... one-uppish ones went away. You do get a nice healthy cash bonus for it, which you can then invest in larger numbers of lighter ships. Hint hint wink wink. :p
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 01:45pm    Post subject:
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Is this going to affect the freelancers at all?

Like, is CMAC gonna take away my armor and ship?
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At this time, we're unsure if it'll be affecting personal assets in such a way. If it does, you should receive enough credits to buy them back. Credits for personal assets will be converted to the new system (every credit in the game will be).
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 03:59pm    Post subject:
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Eh', maybe CMAC can restrict certain items more. Such as blasters and shit, so not just anybody with a couple credits in their pocket can buy them. It kinda defeats the purpose of an authoritarian empire and smuggling.

An maybe a little more thought should be given too mining and resource gathering. Such as the mines on Kessel and Ylesia.
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 04:30pm    Post subject:
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It's pretty awesome we're all working together on this one.

I have a GOOD feeling about this, and I like the idea of the RPG turning BACK into Star Wars. Any ships that I own that aren't canon, I'm willing to release; maybe use the new credits to purchase something more realistic.
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Said authoritarian Empire doesn't exactly run the entire Galaxy, Tvojjerick. :p

And yes, that's one of my major goals is to get us back to Star Wars... for the most part. Obviously, some crossovers are okay because they retain an SW-ish feel to them. But we're not going to have Constitution-class heavy cruisers running around, and it'd be nice if the RDM Battlestars, Tau'ri warships, and certain other things went away. :p

We're also working on filling out the stocks of shipwright companies that I may have left off when I made the list because
A) They didn't exist yet. Acclamators didn't even have a widely-known name when I first made that list. ROTS was a dream of redeeming the PT.
B) I felt they didn't belong. The list was originally made for 7 ABY, not 15 like now.
C) I didn't even know the company existed. Turns out I left off Telgorn, a major manufacturer of everything from space stations to supply and troop shuttles. Oops. :?
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Such as blasters and shit, so not just anybody with a couple credits in their pocket can buy them. It kinda defeats the purpose of an authoritarian empire and smuggling.


That is a good point, and it's something we want to achieve; we want to make credits count, not just be practically a blank check that only prevents you from buying, like, Death Stars. :p

Also I agree with Alex; good vibes from this indeed. :D
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 Post Posted: Fri, January 02nd 2009 10:04pm    Post subject:
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I agree with Alex...the game will seem much more like Star Wars if the fleets and assets are reduced. Seeing a fleet of ten Star Destroyers is awe-inspiring, but it doesn't have the SW-ring that a single Destroyer and wing of TIEs has. I think that a lot of us have forgotten that Star Destroyers are designed to dominate entire star systems.
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Which is why they are called Star Destroyers. It has nothing to do with being a small escort ship. Dreadnaught cruisers actually are cruisers. A Star Destroyer can be a Battlecruiser or a Battleship.
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Just a suggestion, but how about actual merchant shipping. Such as player-owned companies actually having too deliver their products through convoys and cargo ships.

It opens the RPG too pirates and stuff.
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See, that's what I would want to strive for. This game has been lacking for bounty hunters, smugglers, pirates and the rest of the scum of the galaxy. I would like to get things rolling to bring those aspects back to the game. I think it would be a whole lot more fun to have this portion of Star Wars healthy and active in SWVIII.
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Yes, we need more scum! :p
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 Post Posted: Sat, January 03rd 2009 01:55am    Post subject:
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*scrapes bath tub waste into bucket and dumps on Moff*

Soap scum? Alien scum?

Or alien soap scum?
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See, that's what I would want to strive for. This game has been lacking for bounty hunters, smugglers, pirates and the rest of the scum of the galaxy. I would like to get things rolling to bring those aspects back to the game. I think it would be a whole lot more fun to have this portion of Star Wars healthy and active in SWVIII.


This is what I enjoyed about VII, as Lambda had a much more active role in the galaxy, yet it lacked the naval super power. It never occurred to me that I needed better ships, until my characters were placed in danger, but in that situation, I was able to compromise, and the end result was far better than any kind of epic engagement.

Han Solo, for example, relied on his piloting skills and the speed of his ship, not because it was atop-of-the-line-beauty with an uber ULTRA OMEGA 3000 hyperdrive, either.

This change, has really opened opportunities for us all to discover new sectors.

I think ground battles would be MUCH MORE entertaining to face a couple hundred, versus millions of troops. It would also make FS to FS engagements more dynamic, and epic.

And tactically, this is a whole new ball game... think of all the different types of battles, and formations.... *gleams*
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I think ground battles would be MUCH MORE entertaining to face a couple hundred


Don't get too hasty :P

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I'm sorry :(

I have good vibes about this too, you guys. Seems like a good idea. Although I'm loath to lose my Pegasuses :P
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Yeah, a couple hundred is a bit low... since, you know, any Star Destroyer carries a few thousand. Though, millions are a bit much. It's worth noting that a single Stormtrooper is worth about 250 French troopers on the Maginot line. Namely because he has to reload then. :p
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