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 Post Posted: Sat, May 19th 2007 11:58pm    Post subject:
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For both of you... if you get bidders, you know who to call for shiping. :P
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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 05:10am    Post subject:
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I question the morality of you shipping bodies Surge...though I point out that the Rebellion might want to do something about one of its officers partaking in something akin to slaving...
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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 05:38am    Post subject:
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Slaving perhaps, but its what they do.
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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 10:25am    Post subject:
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It's not slavery. :? I'm asking that someone take them off my hands and get them medical help, just like Ams and Arlyn did. How is it slavery?
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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 10:49am    Post subject:
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Since when is giving people medical attention 'slavery'? And how is getting them to a place where they could get help endorsing it?
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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 10:49am    Post subject:
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Give them medical help? For Clone Madness?
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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 10:53am    Post subject:
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Any fool knows that simply carting around clones that are beeing purchased for either battle or medical experimentation or for use as batteries - lets put it this way, the reason why the NR outlawed the creation of clones is because you are creating a LIVING BEEING to serve you - clones aren't getting payed - they are beeing made to serve someone without question - making living beeings a commodity...is slavery - and you Skyes have made your hands dirty with it.

And Trassk if you are so concerned about their wellbeeing why don't you actually free them to find their own way - its also a fact that there is no cure for clone madness - Surge you are selling them to be experimented upon.


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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 11:04am    Post subject:
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And Trassk if you are so concerned about their wellbeeing why don't you actually free them to find their own way


They have the average lifespan of a fruit fly, so that wouldn't make much of a difference. :?

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its also a fact that there is no cure for clone madness - Surge you are selling them to be experimented upon.


So all of Thrawn's clone soldiers were insane? At least they'll be able to help discover a cure for it (IE Ysalimiri).
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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 11:14am    Post subject:
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Thrawn's soldiers would have gone crazy after time.
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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 11:17am    Post subject:
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They have the average lifespan of a fruit fly, so that wouldn't make much of a difference. :?


He wouldn't be selling them as a slave commodity

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So all of Thrawn's clone soldiers were insane? At least they'll be able to help discover a cure for it (IE Ysalimiri).



HOW? Its not like anyone can snap their fingers and go...OH YES! ITS THE FORCE EXPOSURE THAT CAUSED THIS GENETIC DEFECT DRIVING THEM INSANE! And thats really an illogical comment - Thrawn PREVENTED them from getting Clone Madness there is no cure of it. So no Xaph...they didn't go mad over time they remained stable (hence one of them beeing partially responcible for the events of the Hand of Thrawn duology see: Grodin Pierce)

Clone Madness is a condition that occurs in clones grown at an accelerated rate - the basic premise is that the force acts like a universal defence that kills unnatural creatures - cloning works so long as the clones are grown at a decellerated speed.

Anyway back onto the morality front - we are talking about Surge shipping them in ACTION IV'S - so what? He's got them packed into a cargo-hold all together with very little places to go to the bathroom? Sounds allot like a slave ship to me - all I'm saying is the Alliance should get hold of its morality again.



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Morality and the alliance no longer exist, both are dead and in its stead is the dictatorship called the Galactic Alliance, just get use to there being no good guys anymore.
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Right, so me trying to help is getting my hands dirty. Whatever, Volytar. :roll: If it's so bad to help people, I won't but your point there is still moronic.
And no, they would not be jammed up like cargo. The only reason I let them go by the ton instead of a ticket is because it would be cheaper for the person who wanted the help them, leaving more money to search for a cure.
Besides, they're not my clones whom I bought for cannon fodder, why are you jummping on me?

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 Post Posted: Sun, May 20th 2007 12:02pm    Post subject:
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Should this not be in IC? Or at least in the AOTC Problems thread?
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Surge Skyes wrote:
Right, so me trying to help is getting my hands dirty. Whatever, Volytar. :roll: If it's so bad to help people, I won't but your point there is still moronic.


Ok...lets see...packing human beeings into cargo ships with very little inhabitable room in them - no toilet facilities besides the crew ones - not to mention the fact that you obviously aren't helping them out of anything but greed? This is why the Empire is so successful...we're a better moral force in the Galaxy - even my cells on Byss are better than your slave transports. So its a group of Authoritarians who are out for the greater good of their citizens vs. a bunch of slavers, insane birds and smugglers - I CALL LOYALTY CHECKS ON EVERY SINGLE ALLIANCE WORLD
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Psst...I tried this before, with Kamino. Ams shouted :(

EDIT: Seriously, this should be moved to the thread in suggestions.

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Ok...lets see...packing human beeings into cargo ships with very little inhabitable room in them - no toilet facilities besides the crew ones - not to mention the fact that you obviously aren't helping them out of anything but greed? This is why the Empire is so successful...we're a better moral force in the Galaxy - even my cells on Byss are better than your slave transports. So its a group of Authoritarians who are out for the greater good of their citizens vs. a bunch of slavers, insane birds and smugglers - I CALL LOYALTY CHECKS ON EVERY SINGLE ALLIANCE WORLD


I'm sorry to say this, but shut the hell up and calm the hell down.


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I see your point, just you're not backing it very well. Forget anything about me packing the clones into small freighters, and for the Clones Ams purchased, I will send all my ships to assure they arrive safely and comfortably.
Also, does anyone know of ships that would be more comfortable for humans?

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Surge Skyes wrote:
I see your point, just you're not backing it very well. Forget anything about me packing the clones into small freighters, and for the Clones Ams purchased, I will send all my ships to assure they arrive safely and comfortably.
Also, does anyone know of ships that would be more comfortable for humans?


See, now I get to point out the irony of an Inquisitor dictating morality to someone.
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LOL. :P Okay, let's go eat pizza. Or breakfast. I haven't ate yet...
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Meh, I was thinking Thai
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Brote, save your BS propaganda please before I warn you for baiting.
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