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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 07:47pm    Post subject:
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But not AT-ATs?
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 07:50pm    Post subject:
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A SMALL one.


And yet it's still the best ion-resistant ship in the game :P
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 07:51pm    Post subject:
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Actually I would say that AT-TE's aint ION resistant...they may be EMP resistant but as previously noted Ion-tech is totally different (while having the same efect) as an Emp - and Brote...to the best of my knowledge the AT-AT is vulnerable to Ion fire BUT it has to be a relativley heavy implacement (to provide the energy to cause a surge in the controls.
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 07:54pm    Post subject:
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AT-ATs are able to easily dissipate ion attacks, as well. They'll do damage if they're of sufficient power and in the right point.
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 07:54pm    Post subject:
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See... this is what is hurting my brain... an EMP is an electrical pulse... but some how the Ion cannon isn't and somewhat does the same thing... what is the difference, how does the Ion cannon do different damage then an EMP?
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 07:54pm    Post subject:
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Because George said so. :p
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 07:56pm    Post subject:
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well... if thats true then if you look at the movie and a clip of the ion cannon in action against an ISD then you can see the electrical dissipation and that went through both shields and systems to keep them at bay.
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 07:57pm    Post subject:
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You're right, it DID stop against the shield for a moment... some people don't believe it though, hence why this is only a trial run. :(
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But could it make a ship a sleeping hulk of junk quite quickly?
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Against an ISD...
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Then can we agree that, unless a ship is properly insulated, that a burst of ionic energy can disable a shield and fry the circuitry?
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Yes, but not just any burst against any ship. And it wouldn't instantly fry the shield; that's not what I was saying in the title post. :p
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 08:12pm    Post subject:
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Meh, this is the part on Ion Cannons from the Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology:

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Ion cannons are similar to laser cannons, but their energy beams, which appear to be standard laser blasts, actually disable the targeted ship's electronic and computer systems instead of causing physical damage. Ion energy blasts overload and fuse circuitry, blowing out computers, flight control systems, sensors, shields and weapons - even life support and communication systems are damaged.

While low-powered blasts may cause only minor systems failures, a powerful blast can cripple a ship for several minutes. As internal electronic systems short out, streams of blue lightning stream across control panners and electronic interfaces. (Laser canons also sometimes cause an ionization effect as happened to Luke Skywalkers snowspeeder during the battle of Hoth.)

Since ion blasts are unimpared by energy shields, ships have no defense against them short of reconfiguring their shields - and this would make the shields useless for absorbing standard laser blasts.

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And there you have it...the basic difference is that EMP can cause shutdowns wereas the ion cannon does damage to electronics.


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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 08:15pm    Post subject:
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Thats what an EMP does... it destroys circuitry making it burnt and useless...
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 08:20pm    Post subject:
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Ok....well then the better way to put it is like this...

Ion tech is used to produce ranged weapons that will short out an enemy vessel/vehicle/droid and is highly invasive (not the right word really I meen it...penetrates...in a through armour kinda way) - were as EMP technology is used (IN STARWARS) to produce bombs with the same effect...that are not as effective because their energy dissipates against shielding and over large distances making them not as damaging as the Ion canon.
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So, its focused polarization against a single target, well with that kind of power it would knock out systems for good, perhaps the "minutes" Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology refers to is a transfer from primary systems to auxiliary systems.
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 Post Posted: Fri, May 18th 2007 08:30pm    Post subject:
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One would assume that in a universe of massively advanced technology a reboot would take allot less time than a minuet - so its safe to say that they are probably switching to aux-systems or reparing any fused circuits...
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repairs in minutes? I'm not so sure about that one. :P
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I am. :p
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So am I...thats why there are masses of droids on all Imperial starships...as well as gigantic man power in terms of regular engineers...including the fact that on some ships were certain Sith travel there are cleaning staff that are actually humans who's job it is to clean all the corridors on a ESD...
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Ams Jendob wrote:
...Cool, so Skynet T-600s are ion proof. :p

Unforunately, we don't use latex skin on our T-600s in VIII.


Whyy? lol.
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Because we used Synth-skin... like Ryan. :p
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So would he be affected?

So Ion blasts shouldn't affect him, but EMPs might?
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Both will...

It's complicated. Talk to CMAC, though, since, uh... you know, we're the ones who actually decide this stuff. :p
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